[ Day 05-06 – 3/25/23 Saturday ]

Note: Sorry for the lack of a Day 4 update, it got a little crazy, we will skip over the last day of the first weekend and get right into the Sweet Sixteen games of Thursday and Friday.

First, the current scoring with only 7 games left.

Also, let’s get the Women’s update:

General Thoughts on the Sweet Sixteen games:

OK, the Thursday games:

The Friday Games

With that, only seven games to go. Enjoy the end of the madness!

[ Day 03b – 3/18/23 Saturday Thoughts]

<< A historic upset, coupled with historically bad calls >>

General Thoughts:

Game thoughts:

OK, full slate tonight, including the darlings of FDU  trying to be the first 16 seed to win two main bracket games in NCAA history!

Enjoy the close of the first weekend.


[ Day 03a – 3/18/23 Saturday Scoring]


[ Day 02b – 3/17/23 Friday Thoughts]

<< A historic upset, coupled with historically bad calls >>

General Thoughts:

Game Thoughts:

I’m not saying that the refs were paid, I am saying if the refs were paid, that is exactly what it would look like. 

On that note, I will obviously still enjoy all of March Madness, but I’ll be a little (a lot) bitter for a while. SO ignore my ill temper.

To that note, let’s GO FDU and Princeton!


[ Day 02a – 3/17/23 Friday Scoring]

<< Scoring Day 2 >>

Thoughts (I have a few) to follow.


[ Day 01b – 3/16/23 Thursday Thoughts]

<< NERDS!!!! >>

General Thoughts:

 Game Thoughts:

OK, that’s a fun Day 1, let’s see what the Day 2 brings!


[ Day 01a – 3/16/23 Thursday Scoring ONLY]

<< Recaps and Notes to follow, but here is the scoring for Day 1, early Day 2 NOT INCLUDED below >>

Day One Scoring:


[ Day 0 – 3/16/23 Thursday Part I: INTRO]

Hello all, welcome to the pool.
Let’s start with our house keeping.

1. We are 43 to roll. So it’s $430 in the pool. Most of you have paid, I’ll rattle cages on the rest.
Breakdown as per normal:
  • ~65% to Men’s Winner: $250 
  • ~35% to Women’s 2nd Place: $130
  • $10 to last place
  • $10 to the biggest by seed second round upset (if more than 2 people pick, goes to winner)
  • $20 to Women’s Winner
  • $10 to Women’s 2nd Place
2. I will be updating on a nightly basis, but this email thread is for soft updates and shit talking.
3. Let’s make some introductions about your competitors.
This is to introduce you all for the amusement of each other.
Also so you know where to needle each other and the best places to go for insults 😉
  • The Cuse People: the GF is from Cuse, so…
    • Yasmin, made the mistake of dating me, please pity her.
    • Noshir, Yasmin’s pop, raised her, so pity him.
    • Sus: Big Cuse fan and former champ of the political pool
    • Scott Hefley, married into the Cuse crowd (Michigan State)
    • Blake Hefley, our youngest competitor, Scott’s son
  • The Rec Team: these idiots had to play with a 40 y/o stretch 5, so pity them:
    • Robby L. – The Jewish Steph Curry (Penn St)
    • Robby S. – Destructive wing with a big weekend next weekend (fingers crossed!, Penn St)
    • Emilio – Guard made mostly of Jack Daniels. (DePaul)
    • Aman – PG from a team a while back, and former champ.
  • The TBT Mafia: if you want basketball junkies and degenerates:
    • Matt M / Jacob H – GM team of Eberlein Drive (finalist in 2018)
    • Mike Rej – GM – We Are D3 (All D3 schools 😉 )
    • AJ M – GM – Armored Athlete / Friday Beers, owes me a beer from Syracuse.
    • Jess R – OG Booster and podcaster, with AA/Beers, Knows more hoops than us all.
    • Juan B – GM of Pedro’s Posse, degenerate gambler, Florida Man
    • Billy Clapper – GM of Sideline Cancer, strong contender in TBT 2023, all around swell guy
    • Chris Thomas – GM of The Primetime Players, the kings of Minor League basketball and ECBL’s annual champs
    • Tom Ballato – founder “The Next Prospect”, pro’s pro on euro hoops, ZtTBT guest
    • Ot Elmore – GM of Herd That, future guest host of ZtTBT, the “Joe Johnson” Stopper.
    • Matt Martucci – PxP voice: TBT / St. Joe’s, knower of all things Big5 hoops and my drinking partner at whatever shitty city TBT’s 2nd weekend is.
  • The Architecture / Construction Pros: these people work with me, pity them
    • David Ack – GC that builds my better designs (UMass)
    • Lindsey – Former coworker, you have likely been in one of her national projects 😉
    • Chris Ziegler – Former coworker, Penn St
    • Benny Tang – Former coworker, UIC / Buffalo
    • Steph – Also an architect, please be nice to her.
    • Eric G – rolls with Steph
    • Maurice – Engineer, tries to keep me from fucking up HVAC (need to call you next week lol)
  • The U of Memphis Mafia:
    • Peter C, attendee of the Penny Hardaway fantasy camp (jealous)
    • Hanna C, an actual nice memphis fan 
    • Brad W, musician / Memphis fan
    • Molly, rolls with Brad
    • Angie, rolls with Brad / Molly
  • Defies characterization:
    • David Hil: college friend, fun guy (WUSTL)
    • Reid: Broadcasting professional, college friend (Missouri)
    • Amanda – Solid wing, probably can beat most of this list one on one. (Mason / VCU?)
    • Liz D – rolls with Amanda, picked based on mascots, probably champion.
    • Dan B – the premier hater in NYC 
    • Dave Ha – my pop, so this is all his fault. (Memphis)
    • Jeanine – runs Park Slope VB (St. John’s – Rick Pitino’s next stop)
    • Sven – Park Slope VB, former training partner
    • Dave L – Highest 40 year old jumper in history, friend from dunk camp, good egg (UMass)
Whew. Ok, chat amongst yourselves.
Enjoy the madness, update later 😉


[ Day 00: Intro ]

It’s the most wonderful time of the year… the NCAA Tournament is coming!

Hello all and welcome to the 2023 Larry Finch NCAA tourney pool.

2022’s participants / new invites are cc’ed. Feel free to invite any friends you think would be interested, it’s not a closed deal. More the merrier!
First things first, your participation:
  • #1: Yes, I want to enter the pool and become a degenerate gambler.
  • #2: No, hate gambling, but love going out. Please alert me to outdoor watches in NYC.
  • #3: Spam email, delete.
Let me know your deal, I will make a master email list of the participants for the whole ride once it all shakes out. Note: at that point the emails become non-BCC’ed

1. We will be using the ESPN standard scoring at dedicated group:

Directions to join pool on ESPN:
Group: LarryFinch_2023
Women’s Bracket Counts as well!:
Group: LarryFinch_2023_WCBB
Password: LibertyChamps-23
Note: We will use ESPN’s scoring, no questions asked.
Note: NAME YOUR BRACKET YOUR NAME so I’m not guessing who you are!
2. The entry fee remains $10.  
  • Venmo (@DavidA-Haner) strongly preferred.
  • Do NOT under ANY circumstances use Paypal
  • As always, the subject should be ‘LF Pool Cleaning Fees’ since gambling is illegal and this isn’t gambling, but some friends helping friends out.
3. Submission of your bracket AND PAYMENT (I’m looking specifically at a few of you damned freeloaders, LOL) is due before the first round of 64 game tip off.
Note: ‘First Four’ games will not weigh in the scoring.

4. What’s at stake? Money. 

  • 65% general pot to the winner
  • 30% of general pot to 2nd place
  • $20 to Women’s bracket 1st place
  • $10 to Women’s bracket 2nd place
  • $10 each to:
    • Last place (LOL) and 
    • The biggest 2nd round upset (by seed). 
  • We’ll hash this out / confirm on our first ‘all aboard’ email.
5. Who is defending? 
You’re chasing the defending champ, which is a split between my pop and brother (Dave / Rusty, nepotism!). 


Prior champs include yours truly, Aman, Benny T, Chris Z, Ruth G, Ryan, Dai, Amanda, Matt, Yasmin, and others I forget 🙁

<< Ok, that is the gambling, what about the social aspect? >>

Likely thinking:
  • Thursday:
    • My place in Brooklyn (one TV, one projector, one separation anxiety pooch)
  • Friday:
    • Repeat of my place OR a quiet bar in Brooklyn (no patience for St. Patty’s Day)
  • Saturday: TBD
  • Sunday:
    • If MEMPHIS WINS FRIDAY, likely at StoreHouse in Manhattan, 
    • The public Memphis bat signal goes up then 😉
That’s all for now, Make your brackets and we’ll do this.
Same as it ever was.
Happy bracketing!

PS: This is an open pool.  If you’ve got a friend you think would enjoy this, then please forward them this email and put them in touch.  More money to the winner, which is always a good thing…
And a final reminder,
1. Last year’s write up is here (scroll to bottom): http://sun-tect.com/temp-larry-finch-pool-2021

2. It’s all about that glass slipper:

  • From the ‘Cardiac Pack’ in ’85
  • To Bryce Drew’s killer shot for Valpo in ’98
  • All the way to 2013’s #DunkCity Sweet 16:
The joy is in the journey.
Be well all.